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QE2 Dry Docking March 2018
« on: Mar 14, 2018, 03:39 PM »
Dubai Dry Dock is under preparations to take QE2 back in for a overhaul painting,will keep you informed as it come in.....
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« Reply #1 on: Mar 14, 2018, 03:44 PM »
Awesome!  ;D

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Re: QE2 Dry Docking 2018
« Reply #2 on: Mar 14, 2018, 03:49 PM »
That is great news, Louis !  Thanks for the info and keep us up to date as info comes in !   :) :)
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« Reply #3 on: Mar 14, 2018, 04:58 PM »
That's great news, Louis.  Do you know if "under preparations" means, they are currently and actively getting it ready?  Or does that mean they are planning it for some near but future time?

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« Reply #4 on: Mar 14, 2018, 05:11 PM »
Thanks for the information!

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« Reply #5 on: Mar 14, 2018, 05:31 PM »
Fantastic news, Louis! :)
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Re: QE2 Dry Docking 2018
« Reply #6 on: Mar 14, 2018, 05:53 PM »
Good news! Just over 5 years since the last time, and to be expected as part of a successful future even though she's not in class/seagoing condition anymore etc - will keep her in good condition for some years yet in her new role and shows how committed they are to her if there were any doubts.
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Re: QE2 Dry Docking 2018
« Reply #7 on: Mar 14, 2018, 06:26 PM »
Thanks Louis.

This surely is the 'ship to hotel' dry docking - when they blank off openings etc and arrange a way for her to be secured to the dockside.  At both the previous dockings she was still expected to sail again.

Now surely they'll use this to relaunch her?  Especially when she comes out...
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« Reply #8 on: Mar 14, 2018, 07:01 PM »
I seem to remember we discussed dry dock visits recently and the consensus was that they'd have to do one very soon - and that it would need to be before a high profile launch of the hotel - wasn't it?
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Re: QE2 Dry Docking 2018
« Reply #9 on: Mar 14, 2018, 07:15 PM »
Thanks Louis.

This surely is the 'ship to hotel' dry docking - when they blank off openings etc and arrange a way for her to be secured to the dockside.  At both the previous dockings she was still expected to sail again.

Now surely they'll use this to relaunch her?  Especially when she comes out...

Would make sense and is, I would've thought - like you, likely too.

I seem to remember we discussed dry dock visits recently and the consensus was that they'd have to do one very soon - and that it would need to be before a high profile launch of the hotel - wasn't it?

I remember that discussion, the saying "speak of the devil" comes to mind!
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« Reply #10 on: Mar 14, 2018, 09:58 PM »
Absolutely brilliant news, many thanks Louis!
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« Reply #11 on: Mar 14, 2018, 11:35 PM »
I had taken a nap at 1pm and this had exploded! People are interested!

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« Reply #12 on: Mar 14, 2018, 11:36 PM »
I had taken a nap at 1pm and this had exploded! People are interested!

QE2 is that special  ;)
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Re: QE2 Dry Docking 2018
« Reply #13 on: Mar 15, 2018, 01:14 PM »
QE2 is that special  ;)

Very, very special, indeed !   :)
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Re: QE2 Dry Docking 2018
« Reply #14 on: Mar 15, 2018, 04:26 PM »
Sunday 18th March 2018 around 4pm QE2 will make her entrance to the Dry Dock at the Dubai Dry Docks...

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Re: QE2 Dry Docking March 2018
« Reply #15 on: Mar 15, 2018, 04:36 PM »
Will QE2 be stable sitting so high out of the water ?
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Sunday 18th March 2018 around 4pm QE2 will make her entrance to the Dry Dock at the Dubai Dry Docks...   

While this all sounds like great news, cant help but think that the Public Relations team or Marketing team (one assumes they have such people ::) ) are missing out , hire a drone get some overhead shots or something, Heck do anything to announce this to the world , build up some hype.. The Hotel QE2 is coming soon....

Who can forget ther hype surrounding the Queen Elizabeth (The new one) Those lucky enough to see the preview tours were greeted with a large sign "The wait is over"  some of us quietly breathed Thank god for that... 
One cant help but think, All credit to Davina for obtaining such information, photos etc  , BUT at the end of the day we cannot escape the fact , had it not been for an Ex Barman and some hidden photos showing nothing more than new carpets and new lights, we would all be totally blind to what is going on.   

If this is how they promote  (or not as the case maybe )QE2, what hope is there if or when for the Gala reopening .
Please tell me lm wrong in my way of thinking ? :-\

Heck they should hire Flagship from on here for an hour, he could do more in that hour than they have done in nearly ten years !!!!
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Re: QE2 Dry Docking March 2018
« Reply #17 on: Mar 15, 2018, 05:44 PM »
Will QE2 be stable sitting so high out of the water ?

I would've thought so given her normal stability margin was probably far better than some modern cruise ships (based on how she handled the freak listing events), however her ballast system will no longer be functional (partly for the software reason and mainly due to not being used). Maybe Michael or Louis can shed more light on this aspect, or anyone else more knowledgeable for that matter?

Also she's been stable alongside for nearly 2 years in all weather such as the high winds/sandstorms (minus the lifeboats/tenders and davits - some of the major bits of weight removed from around mid 2016) and they will have assessed her stability on the short tows there and back, and whether to more permanently dock her at her new home (like SS Rotterdam is with stanchions/bollards, for example).
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« Reply #18 on: Mar 15, 2018, 05:48 PM »
Sunday 18th March 2018 around 4pm QE2 will make her entrance to the Dry Dock at the Dubai Dry Docks...

I hope there is a way to watch the process!

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« Reply #19 on: Mar 15, 2018, 06:00 PM »
I hope there is a way to watch the process!
That would be great... lets hope someone is nearby recording it.

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« Reply #20 on: Mar 15, 2018, 06:07 PM »
If the tugs details are known they could be tracked on marinetraffic

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« Reply #21 on: Mar 15, 2018, 06:34 PM »
Sunday 18th March 2018 around 4pm QE2 will make her entrance to the Dry Dock at the Dubai Dry Docks...
Hopefully we have pictures..

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Re: QE2 Dry Docking March 2018
« Reply #22 on: Mar 15, 2018, 07:58 PM »
While this all sounds like great news, cant help but think that the Public Relations team or Marketing team (one assumes they have such people ::) ) are missing out , hire a drone get some overhead shots or something, Heck do anything to announce this to the world , build up some hype.. The Hotel QE2 is coming soon....

Its not happened yet.  Maybe they will.  And if I was them, I'd wait until she's coming OUT - i.e. shiny and freshly  painted!!

Who can forget ther hype surrounding the Queen Elizabeth (The new one) Those lucky enough to see the preview tours were greeted with a large sign "The wait is over"  some of us quietly breathed Thank god for that... 

UAE / Dubai works rather differently...


One cant help but think, All credit to Davina for obtaining such information, photos etc  , BUT at the end of the day we cannot escape the fact , had it not been for an Ex Barman and some hidden photos showing nothing more than new carpets and new lights, we would all be totally blind to what is going on.   
Full credit to Louis for what he's achieved with his perseverance over the years - including his latest scoop about the forthcoming dry docking  However even without any contacts at all, we'd still know much of what we know (with the exception of the interior photos) because she's in full view of everyone now, with an increasing number of lights on, surrounded by her cut-off lifeboats, with a new entrance terminal building (holding public events) - and a new website. Also the PCFC Hotels contact I made a couple of years ago, and was speaking to them then (although they only spoke back in limited ways - and via linked in you could figure out a large number of their staff and roughly what they were up to...


If this is how they promote  (or not as the case maybe )QE2, what hope is there if or when for the Gala reopening .
Please tell me lm wrong in my way of thinking ? :-\
The current operators have said nothing.  They haven't misled us, they haven't cancelled or aborted plans.  They've just kept quiet and been consistently professional.  Not in the manner of business in the West maybe, but arguably a better approach than their predecessors...

Heck they should hire Flagship from on here for an hour, he could do more in that hour than they have done in nearly ten years !!!!

Now that I agree with.  THE Cunard historian.  THE QE2 Expert - who better to relaunch QE2.
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Re: QE2 Dry Docking 2018
« Reply #23 on: Mar 15, 2018, 08:01 PM »
That would be great... lets hope someone is nearby recording it.

Hope so! (but there wasn't the last two times!)
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Re: QE2 Dry Docking March 2018
« Reply #24 on: Mar 15, 2018, 08:03 PM »
I would've thought so given her normal stability margin was probably far better than some modern cruise ships (based on how she handled the freak listing events), however her ballast system will no longer be functional (partly for the software reason and mainly due to not being used). Maybe Michael or Louis can shed more light on this aspect, or anyone else more knowledgeable for that matter?

Also she's been stable alongside for nearly 2 years in all weather such as the high winds/sandstorms (minus the lifeboats/tenders and davits - some of the major bits of weight removed from around mid 2016) and they will have assessed her stability on the short tows there and back, and whether to more permanently dock her at her new home (like SS Rotterdam is with stanchions/bollards, for example).

Her previous Dubai project manager described her as being "very top heavy" which surprised me because, as you say, I'd have thought she was far less top heavy than any other "cruise ship".

Regarding ballasting - even not as a ship any more - I'd assume they need to keep a certain amount of ballast adjustment capability.  Even Queen Mary in Long Beach can still do this when required.  I'm sure I read the Rotterdam can too. 
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Re: QE2 Dry Docking 2018
« Reply #25 on: Mar 15, 2018, 08:05 PM »
Sunday 18th March 2018 around 4pm QE2 will make her entrance to the Dry Dock at the Dubai Dry Docks...

Thanks!  How exciting.  This could be the last time she's drydocked for a very long time indeed - I think for the Royal Yacht they're aiming for 15 years between dry dockings.

4pm Dubai time is midday UK time.
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« Reply #26 on: Mar 15, 2018, 08:20 PM »
Her previous Dubai project manager described her as being "very top heavy" which surprised me because, as you say, I'd have thought she was far less top heavy than any other "cruise ship".

Regarding ballasting - even not as a ship any more - I'd assume they need to keep a certain amount of ballast adjustment capability.  Even Queen Mary in Long Beach can still do this when required.  I'm sure I read the Rotterdam can too.

Queen Mary had her tanks (maybe including those for ballast) filled with local mud (which is of a clay type) as part of her 1967 to 1971 "conversion" as part of their attempts to restore some of the weight of the removed machinery etc, so I'm not sure she maintains the ability (not to mention being neglected until recently with the structural and mechanical consequences). SS Rotterdam actively ballasts still, depending on the tide on the River Maas - from what I've heard. I don't know if QE2 needs to adjust ballast anymore and if she does they must've been doing that for some time now (alongside the old terminal building).

When was her previous project manager onboard? Before the removal of the lifeboats/tenders and davits etc etc? If so I find that very hard to believe as she would've been in a similar state (albeit not as loaded up with stores etc) to when in service with Cunard and a top heavy ship does not make a good ocean liner, particularly in a North Atlantic hurricane! One of the reasons for the deep draft too! She was also a good "roller" unlike Queen Mary before her stabilisers (I know QE2 had the stabilisers to help though), she pitched more than anything in rough weather from personal experience (I travelled up and down my bunk bed in a bow section cabin between rushing to the bathroom - my bunk bed was parallel to her side at that point) - with little rolling, that may or may not indicate being top heavy.
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Re: QE2 Dry Docking March 2018
« Reply #27 on: Mar 15, 2018, 08:43 PM »
Will QE2 be stable sitting so high out of the water ?

Everthing is been planned in detail,it will all be ok

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Re: QE2 Dry Docking 2018
« Reply #28 on: Mar 15, 2018, 08:45 PM »
Hopefully we have pictures..

I have a contact within the Dry Docks lets see what he can get


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Re: QE2 Dry Docking 2018
« Reply #29 on: Mar 15, 2018, 08:46 PM »
Sunday 18th March 2018 around 4pm QE2 will make her entrance to the Dry Dock at the Dubai Dry Docks...

Great to have a date! All in good time  :)
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Re: QE2 Dry Docking March 2018
« Reply #30 on: Mar 15, 2018, 08:57 PM »
Queen Mary had her tanks (maybe including those for ballast) filled with local mud (which is of a clay type) as part of her 1967 to 1971 "conversion" as part of their attempts to restore some of the weight of the removed machinery etc, so I'm not sure she maintains the ability (not to mention being neglected until recently with the structural and mechanical consequences).

She's definitely used her ballast to list herself to allow waterline painting to take place during her time where she is in long Beach, but no idea of the last time they did this.

I think a floating hotel ship has to be able to adjust ballast to some extent so they can change things on board and keep it level.
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Re: QE2 Dry Docking March 2018
« Reply #31 on: Mar 16, 2018, 04:17 PM »
Looks like QE2 will be in Dock 3,the same as in 2013 :)

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« Reply #32 on: Mar 16, 2018, 05:34 PM »
Thanks for the update, Louis!

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  She's definitely used her ballast to list herself to allow waterline painting to take place during her time where she is in long Beach, but no idea of the last time they did this.   

I believe quite recently, l was told some of the staff found it very odd walking along with the decks at an uneven angle.
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Re: QE2 Dry Docking March 2018
« Reply #34 on: Mar 17, 2018, 03:41 PM »
All ready for the move tomorrow.....

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Re: QE2 Dry Docking March 2018
« Reply #35 on: Mar 17, 2018, 04:16 PM »
QE2 will have the lights on while shes at the dry dock,2 generators have been placed onboard
plus one bigger one on the dockside

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« Reply #36 on: Mar 17, 2018, 10:15 PM »
This is Very interesting News, Louis
Recently back from almost the farthest South and jet-lagged - so only just now catching up.

As a matter of interest - does anyone know how much HFO QE2 will have left stuck inside her tanks?
QE2 had been waiting alongside in Dubai for what seemed like ages...Please don't leave her looking more like a Hotel-with-a-Hull than the greatest Liner afloat - Please restore her Lifeboats and Tenders to where they truly belong - she looks naked without them - please spare her this ignominy.

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Re: QE2 Dry Docking March 2018
« Reply #37 on: Mar 18, 2018, 09:24 AM »
QE2 is on the move.....


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« Reply #39 on: Mar 18, 2018, 09:52 AM »
Some evocative images there. Certainly brings back some memories of what once was.