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Many missing as the South Korea ferry Sewol sinks
« on: Apr 16, 2014, 11:49 AM »
A ferry carrying 459 people has sunk, with nearly 300 people missing. Lets hope they all get found safely.

http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-asia-27045512
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Re: Many missing as the South Korea ferry Sewol sinks
« Reply #1 on: Apr 16, 2014, 04:52 PM »
Thank you, Adam, for your post of this terrible event.  I do hope more survivors are found.  Can anyone through experience speculate on what might have happened ? 
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Re: Many missing as the South Korea ferry Sewol sinks
« Reply #2 on: Apr 16, 2014, 05:05 PM »
A few more links:

http://news.sky.com/story/1243357/south-korea-295-missing-after-ferry-sinks

http://www.theguardian.com/world/2014/apr/16/rescuers-battle-to-save-476-passengers-after-ferry-sinks-off-south-korea

This is the latest report I have found from the Independant:

http://www.independent.co.uk/news/world/asia/two-dead-and-mass-rescue-underway-as-ferry-with-476-aboard-sinks-off-south-korea-9263609.html

Quote from:  The Independant
he felt the ferry tilt and then heard it crash into something

Like June said about what could have happened, does this quote explain anything?
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Re: Many missing as the South Korea ferry Sewol sinks
« Reply #3 on: Apr 16, 2014, 05:11 PM »
The BBC News has quoted people who were on board as saying they heard and felt large thumps from below, then it started listing; that suggests it may have hit some rocks?
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Re: Many missing as the South Korea ferry Sewol sinks
« Reply #4 on: Apr 16, 2014, 05:12 PM »
I was thinking of something along those lines. Perhaps it grounded?
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Re: Many missing as the South Korea ferry Sewol sinks
« Reply #5 on: Apr 16, 2014, 06:03 PM »
So many ship disasters start with the ship listing and then capsizing and yet the safety drills and procedures deal with the rare occasion when a ship sinks slowly while remaining upright...
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Re: Many missing as the South Korea ferry Sewol sinks
« Reply #6 on: Apr 16, 2014, 06:09 PM »
That is true Rob - safety drills are nothing like a real emergency.
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Re: Many missing as the South Korea ferry Sewol sinks
« Reply #7 on: Apr 16, 2014, 08:41 PM »
They're saying the ferry was a 'ro-ro', which obviously brings to mind the terrible Herald of free enterprise disaster from nearly 30 years ago.
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Re: Many missing as the South Korea ferry Sewol sinks
« Reply #8 on: Apr 16, 2014, 09:15 PM »
And the Wahine in Wellington harbour NZ in '68
She was Clydebuilt (Fairfield I think) too.

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Re: Many missing as the South Korea ferry Sewol sinks
« Reply #9 on: Apr 17, 2014, 08:46 AM »
If you take the Concordia and this accident, it seems that when a ship has even maybe struck something they should pretty much start an abandon ship immediately. In this case it could have saved hundreds.

I know they say that the ship itself is the best lifeboat, but that seems to be only if it will sink slowly and vertically.

Also, as with planes, are lessons learned internationally when an accident Happens, e.g. accidents in Europe understood in south Korea?
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Re: Many missing as the South Korea ferry Sewol sinks
« Reply #10 on: Apr 17, 2014, 10:21 AM »
If you take the Concordia and this accident, it seems that when a ship has even maybe struck something they should pretty much start an abandon ship immediately. In this case it could have saved hundreds.

I know they say that the ship itself is the best lifeboat, but that seems to be only if it will sink slowly and vertically.

Also, as with planes, are lessons learned internationally when an accident Happens, e.g. accidents in Europe understood in south Korea?

I think the ship is definitely the best lifeboat as long as you are on the outside on the highest bit out of the water. Forget the instructions. That is where Sylvia and myself will be if at all possible.

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Re: Many missing as the South Korea ferry Sewol sinks
« Reply #11 on: Apr 17, 2014, 12:11 PM »
Something that I personally think is a problem with today's cruise ships is that the lifeboats are so low down aswell, because the lower they are, the less time until they go into the water. Any thoughts on this anyone?
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Re: Many missing as the South Korea ferry Sewol sinks
« Reply #12 on: Apr 17, 2014, 02:53 PM »
Very good point, Adam.  Thank you to each for your messages.  Rob is correct in saying that drills address what to do when the ship is sinking slowly and upright, and that is usually not the scenario.
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Re: Many missing as the South Korea ferry Sewol sinks
« Reply #13 on: Apr 17, 2014, 03:10 PM »
I've been following the news. Thoughts and prayers for everyone involved. Especially the families. Things don't look very good. :(
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Re: Many missing as the South Korea ferry Sewol sinks
« Reply #14 on: Apr 17, 2014, 04:25 PM »
I'm afraid they don't. :(


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