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Online Lynda Bradford

I have created the Captains of the QE2 board with information about the various Captains/Masters of the QE2 throughout her service life with Cunard and beyond.

The first topic stickied to the top of the board is a list of QE2 Masters/Captain.  I have added links from each Captain's name to their individual profiles.  However, as this is work in progress, there are some Captains, such as Captain R Warwick who have more information than others, but I am hoping that members will contribute their knowledge and add relevant facts, especially for the earlier Captains. 

The individual Captain's profile has a simple format with background information, navy career, any information on awards that may have been given to particular captain and details of books they have written.  Links to media and information sources are provided, so that members can see where the Captain profile information was obtained.  We have also included links to QE2 Story topics that feature a particular captain. 

You will see that we have locked the topics to maintain the chronological order of when each of the Captain assumed command of the ships.

If you have relevant, factual information on any of the Captains that you want added to a Captain’s Profiles, please post the information on this topic with source information.  If appropriate, we will update the topic or add your contribution to an already existing topic on the Captain or Captains referred to

Your input is appreciated as it is what makes the QE2 Story a successful Forum. 
« Last Edit: Aug 28, 2013, 10:14 AM by Lynda Bradford »
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Offline Woolston

Re: Members comments and contributions to QE2 Captains topic
« Reply #1 on: Aug 27, 2013, 07:42 PM »
I think you will find it was spelt "J.E. Woolfenden", I must have signed his signature hundreds of times!


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Online Lynda Bradford

Re: Members comments and contributions to QE2 Captains topic
« Reply #2 on: Aug 27, 2013, 07:53 PM »
I think you will find it was spelt "J.E. Woolfenden", I must have signed his signature hundreds of times!

Thanks for confirmation of the spelling Woolston.  Any other information you can provide would be appreciated. 

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Online Isabelle Prondzynski

Re: Members comments and contributions to QE2 Captains topic
« Reply #3 on: Aug 27, 2013, 09:05 PM »
Thank you for your superb work here, Lynda! I know you have been gathering this data over a long period and putting it together piece by piece.

This collection will be another great asset to the Forum :) .

Offline Jeff Taylor

Re: Members comments and contributions to QE2 Captains topic
« Reply #4 on: Aug 27, 2013, 09:56 PM »
Larry Portet was Staff Captain at times on QE during 1968, and Wm Law was relief Captain on QE during some of the same time period--I was there just as regular Captain Geoffrey Marr returned from his rest period and relieved him.



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Online Lynda Bradford

Re: Members comments and contributions to QE2 Captains topic
« Reply #5 on: Aug 28, 2013, 10:37 AM »
Thank-you Jeff I have added this information to the relevant profiles.  It is really good to have this first hand knowledge onboard the Forum. 
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Offline CAP

Re: Members comments and contributions to QE2 Captains topic
« Reply #6 on: Aug 28, 2013, 03:29 PM »
Wm Law was relief Captain on QE during some of the same time period

Interesting to read of WJ Law and Queen Elizabeth.  I have just been sifting through some information regarding date of commands and I have information that has Captain Law as possibly the first Captain of three Cunard Queens. 

The reason I think this is worthy of note is that when Queen Victoria arrived on the scene Captain Paul Wright was given the command as at some points previously he had been in charge of both QE2 and QM2, he was given the title honour.
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Online Lynda Bradford

Re: Members comments and contributions to QE2 Captains topic
« Reply #7 on: Aug 28, 2013, 04:15 PM »
Interesting to read of WJ Law and Queen Elizabeth.  I have just been sifting through some information regarding date of commands and I have information that has Captain Law as possibly the first Captain of three Cunard Queens. 

The reason I think this is worthy of note is that when Queen Victoria arrived on the scene Captain Paul Wright was given the command and as at some points previously he had been in charge of both QE2 and QM2 he was given the title honour.

It would very interesting to know if Captain Law was indeed in charge of the three Queens and whether there is any recognition of this fact. 

Do you have any information on date of commands to add to the Captains profiles?  Would be pleased to hear more. 

Cheers Lynda
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Offline Jeff Taylor

Re: Members comments and contributions to QE2 Captains topic
« Reply #8 on: Aug 28, 2013, 05:14 PM »
Not certain how relevant this would be, but Law was a relief captain of QE.  At the time (Summer, 1968) Cdr Geoffrey Marr was definitely the captain of QE.  Law may or may not have been (probably was) a relief captain on other occasions on QE, QM, Caronia, etc.


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Offline CAP

Re: Members comments and contributions to QE2 Captains topic
« Reply #9 on: Aug 28, 2013, 05:20 PM »
It would very interesting to know if Captain Law was indeed in charge of the three Queens and whether there is any recognition of this fact. 

Do you have any information on date of commands to add to the Captains profiles?  Would be pleased to hear more. 

Cheers Lynda

My data sources are from passenger lists/daily programmes, so pretty good.  However, they are not 100%, hence my caveat of possibly.  The caveat could also mean there could be others, for this I need to check further.  I guess you need to see the ship's data to fully confirm - or have actually been there!

Regarding your request I'll get something together and send it to you via PM

Online Lynda Bradford

Re: Members comments and contributions to QE2 Captains topic
« Reply #10 on: Aug 28, 2013, 05:44 PM »
Not certain how relevant this would be, but Law was a relief captain of QE.  At the time (Summer, 1968) Cdr Geoffrey Marr was definitely the captain of QE.  Law may or may not have been (probably was) a relief captain on other occasions on QE, QM, Caronia, etc.

Thanks Jeff I have noted this information to see what I information I can find on Captain Law on QE, QM and Caronia

My data sources are from passenger lists/daily programmes, so pretty good.  However, they are not 100%, hence my caveat of possibly.  The caveat could also mean there could be others, for this I need to check further.  I guess you need to see the ship's data to fully confirm - or have actually been there!

Regarding your request I'll get something together and send it to you via PM

Thanks CAP, looking forward to hearing more by PM
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Offline CAP

Re: Members comments and contributions to QE2 Captains topic
« Reply #11 on: Aug 28, 2013, 07:38 PM »
Not certain how relevant this would be, but Law was a relief captain of QE.  At the time (Summer, 1968) Cdr Geoffrey Marr was definitely the captain of QE.  Law may or may not have been (probably was) a relief captain on other occasions on QE, QM, Caronia, etc.

I have Law in command of QE in May 1968 for at least a Westbound Transatlantic.  For Queen Mary, voyages identified in 1967 and for QE2, 1970 and 1973 (although for the latter there will inevitably be more)

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Offline Rod

Re: Members comments and contributions to QE2 Captains topic
« Reply #12 on: Aug 28, 2013, 10:41 PM »
Lynda, fantastic job!
One note of interest...Captain Peter Jackson when torpedoed, was on a Blue Funnel ship (Blue Flue)

His rescuer was 3rd Officer Robert Arnott I believe! Later to become a Captain himself!

Online Lynda Bradford

Re: Members comments and contributions to QE2 Captains topic
« Reply #13 on: Aug 28, 2013, 11:28 PM »
Thanks Rod, it has been really interesting finding the information for the profiles and I am looking forward to seeing these developing even further as members contribute even more information.   

QE2 and history - my favourite subjects  :)
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Offline Cabin 2066

Re: Members comments and contributions to QE2 Captains topic
« Reply #14 on: Aug 29, 2013, 12:31 AM »
Lynda:
Captain Law was the master of QE in late May, 1967, on my eastbound crossing and, on my return westbound on QM in July, Captain Marr was the master. My grandfather knew them both very well and I got to meet them on both voyages.
Tom G.
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Online skilly56

Re: Members comments and contributions to QE2 Captains topic
« Reply #15 on: Aug 29, 2013, 02:01 AM »
Further to Rod's note about Robert (Bob) Arnott, some years back I was dawdling through a second hand bookshop in Auckland and discovered a book entitled "Captain of The Queen", (Quadrant Books, 1984, ISBN 0 946894078) by Captain Robert Harry Arnott from Australia. As well as covering his early years at sea, it also covers the period from October 1976 until 1985, during which time Bob was captain of the QE2. He was still on the QE2 when the book was first printed, so does not cover his full time on the ship.

Arnott served on numerous Cunarders, including the original Queen Elizabeth. He must have kept copious notes during his time at sea as the detail in the book is comprehensive - a good read, with many humorous incidents related! If you can find a copy, it is worth the effort.

Looking back, I now envy those people who had the foresight to keep diaries. I went to sea in 1969, and have been involved in or experienced a number of memorable moments. The problem is I am now having trouble remembering most of the details of these events. At gatherings (normally funerals, unfortunately) with old shipmates, I sometimes discover that I have forgotten some events completely, until reminded by an even older salt who has a better recall than I.
Cheers
Skilly
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Offline CAP

Re: Members comments and contributions to QE2 Captains topic
« Reply #16 on: Aug 29, 2013, 07:40 AM »
Lynda:
Captain Law was the master of QE in late May, 1968, on my eastbound crossing and, on my return westbound on QM in July, Captain Marr was the master. My grandfather knew them both very well and I got to meet them on both voyages.
Tom G.

In my earlier post regarding Law captaining three Queens the one command I really wanted further information on was QE so I really appreciate the personal confirmation and the result that Captain Law was probably the first to Captain three different Cunard Queens.

Online Lynda Bradford

Re: Members comments and contributions to QE2 Captains topic
« Reply #17 on: Aug 29, 2013, 08:37 PM »
Thanks Cabin 2066, your information is really helpful. Any other information on Captains on these earlier voyages would be really helpful.

Skilly I know what you mean about wishing you kept more records as what you remember can at times be different from the reality.  The Cunard ship's programmes and information from World Cruise books has provided a lot of information, so if anyone has a collection of these that have information on Captains I would love to hear from you.

I know about Captain Arnott's book and agree that it was a really good read.  Particularly good was the early part of his career in the Merchant Navy which highlighted the dangers that WWII Merchant Seamen experienced dodging enemy attacks. Rob had featured this book in the Books about QE2 section.   
https://www.theqe2story.com/forum/index.php/topic,3892.0.html

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Offline Twynkle

Re: Members comments and contributions to QE2 Captains topic
« Reply #18 on: Aug 29, 2013, 08:51 PM »
As other Captains have too - Captain Wright has certainly been the master of three of Cunards Queens!
I believe that now the rotation system now ensures that most, if not all, senior officers are required to change ship on a regular basis.

Captain Bob Arnott was very much hoping to take charge of Saga Ruby on one of her final voyages this year, i'm unsure as to whether his hopes were realised.
QE2 had been waiting alongside in Dubai for nearly 12 years.  Please restore her Lifeboats and Tenders to where they truly belong - she looks naked without them - please spare her this ignominy.

Online Lynda Bradford

Re: Members comments and contributions to QE2 Captains topic
« Reply #19 on: Aug 29, 2013, 09:19 PM »
I have a questions that I hope some of our members can contribute to:

My research has identified the progress through the ranks made before achieving the honour of being Master of a ship.   

When researching Captain Peter Jackson's career, I noticed that the date, in the Cunard publication that he first assumed command of the ship was 6 August 1973.  Yesterday I came across two further pieces of information. 
1.  He was Staff Captain on QE2's Maiden World Cruise in 1975
2.  He was appointed Master of Cunard Countess in 1976

This leads me to ask the question is it likely that Captain Jackson was a relief Captain of QE2 in 1973 given that Captain Law and Captain Hehir were also noted in Cunard's publication as Masters of QE2 around 1973?  Being listed as Captain in 1973 and Staff Captain in 1975 seems like a backward step, or is it a case of taking on the role you are given until you become Master of your own ship. 



 
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