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It would be great if we could collect here our memories and the information we have about the various refits which QE2 underwent in the course of her life. The most important one, the re-engining refit of 1986 / 87, has been very well documented, so I would like to start this thread by drawing attention to Rob Lightbody's excellent pages, here : http://roblightbody.com/liners/qe-2/1987_Refit/index.htmAnd his own story as he set out, with his parents, on QE2 when she was released from Bremerhaven to start her new life with her new engines : http://roblightbody.com/liners/qe-2/1987/index.htmReally really amazing to have been on board at such a historic moment! |
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« Reply #1 on: November 20, 2009, 02:49:29 PM » |
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Heres a painting of the QE2 during the 1990 Refit.  Louis |
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« Reply #2 on: November 22, 2009, 12:02:47 PM » |
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I'd love to see photos of the 1994 refit showing the hull being repainted, aft decks (inc. Alpha and Beta) being rearranged and also the application of the speed stripe. Photos of this refit (exterior ones anyway) seem scarce.
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« Reply #3 on: November 22, 2009, 12:10:57 PM » |
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I'd love to see photos of the 1994 refit showing the hull being repainted, aft decks (inc. Alpha and Beta) being rearranged and also the application of the speed stripe. Photos of this refit (exterior ones anyway) seem scarce. Chris the security around the ship in dry dock is very tight i went a few times out to take some photos and got stopped by security.But i am sure someone must have photos somewhere.I have plenty from the inside though. Louis |
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« Reply #4 on: November 22, 2009, 12:11:50 PM » |
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Louis - were these taken during the Project Lifestyle refit? I'd love to see them!
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« Reply #5 on: November 22, 2009, 12:15:27 PM » |
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« Reply #6 on: November 22, 2009, 12:20:32 PM » |
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Chris, you know where i am standing ?  Louis |
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« Reply #7 on: November 22, 2009, 12:25:41 PM » |
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I'll hazard a guess and say the Mauretania Restaurant on Upper Deck?
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« Reply #8 on: November 22, 2009, 12:29:49 PM » |
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I'll hazard a guess and say the Mauretania Restaurant on Upper Deck? In the place where i am standing the Crystal Bar, bar counter was build.You see the project plans on the wall ?Guess where they are now Chris ?  Louis |
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« Reply #9 on: November 22, 2009, 12:31:45 PM » |
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At least I got the deck right... Are they in your possession now Louis?
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« Reply #10 on: November 22, 2009, 12:32:46 PM » |
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« Reply #11 on: November 22, 2009, 02:52:43 PM » |
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Love that photo of you in the "naked" interior Louis. Amazing to see. Amazing headheight too, in among the 'scaffolding'.
Also interesting to see, in both pictures, no major asbestos warnings etc... although i suspect the "black bin bags" on the queens room bulkhead might be related to this issue...
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« Reply #12 on: November 22, 2009, 02:58:36 PM » |
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Hey Rob
Would any asbestos have been removed during refits?
It would be very interesting to know more about this!
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« Reply #13 on: November 22, 2009, 03:08:19 PM » |
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It may have been in the changed public areas Rosie, but I suspect not everywhere, and I know for a fact it was still present on all accomodation decks.
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« Reply #14 on: November 22, 2009, 03:31:55 PM » |
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The asbestos was mostly in the accomodation area, up in public rooms there was no asbestos warning signs that i know off.
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« Reply #15 on: November 22, 2009, 03:36:26 PM » |
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Here you can see the build plan of the Crystal Bar,shortly after the photo was taken is simply vanished.   Louis |
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« Reply #16 on: November 22, 2009, 03:54:11 PM » |
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Is there any detail on the pattern for the linoleum flooring around the bar? I'd be interested in replicating it in a future renovation project.
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« Reply #17 on: November 22, 2009, 04:03:45 PM » |
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Hello Louis! The asbestos was mostly in the accomodation area, up in public rooms there was no asbestos warning signs that i know off. When did you last here anything 'definitely, and for certain' about the asbestos ? Do you know where there's a report - for example? |
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« Reply #18 on: November 22, 2009, 04:10:20 PM » |
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I dont think there is much, if any, asbestos left onboard.
Loads of it was removed during the re engining refit. Thats partly wy the refit was delayed.
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« Reply #19 on: November 22, 2009, 04:11:47 PM » |
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The lino was fantastic. A real throwback to the old queens. But wasn't it added in the later crystal bar refit? 99?
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« Reply #20 on: November 22, 2009, 04:15:44 PM » |
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I dont think there is much, if any, asbestos left onboard.
Loads of it was removed during the re engining refit. Thats partly wy the refit was delayed.
James
Asbestos has been discussed in a separate thread on the forum. All 5 main passenger decks have all their original asbestos lurking behind the original panels everywhere, but it doesn't matter, at all, unless disturbed... |
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« Reply #21 on: November 22, 2009, 04:18:55 PM » |
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The lino was fantastic. A real throwback to the old queens. But wasn't it added in the later crystal bar refit? 99? For sure it was not there after the 1994 Refit. Louis |
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« Reply #22 on: November 22, 2009, 10:56:22 PM » |
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Asbestos has been discussed in a separate thread on the forum.
All 5 main passenger decks have all their original asbestos lurking behind the original panels everywhere, but it doesn't matter, at all, unless disturbed...
You sure Rob? Everything ive seen says that loads of the stuff was removed during the re engining. |
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« Reply #23 on: November 22, 2009, 11:04:41 PM » |
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absolutely sure. the passenger cabins/decks have mostly not been touched since 69.
The main asbestos removal in 86/7 was from the engine room spaces etc. - this alone was a huge task. im pretty sure its mostly intact in the public areas too, except where its had to be messed with.
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« Reply #24 on: November 23, 2009, 12:33:37 AM » |
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absolutely sure. the passenger cabins/decks have mostly not been touched since 69.
The main asbestos removal in 86/7 was from the engine room spaces etc. - this alone was a huge task. im pretty sure its mostly intact in the public areas too, except where its had to be messed with.
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« Reply #26 on: November 23, 2009, 02:20:18 PM » |
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My goodness, she looks so splendid... Indeed she does.  Louis |
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« Reply #28 on: March 19, 2010, 02:14:26 PM » |
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I just saw on the homepage from the 2006 re-fit... there was alot of black on the bow of QE2. I tried saving the webcam image to show, but it didnt work right? What would this be??
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« Reply #29 on: March 19, 2010, 03:45:12 PM » |
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Was this where the paint was removed down to bare metal? I need to look back at photos I collected on this refit.
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« Reply #30 on: March 19, 2010, 03:50:16 PM » |
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Supplementary question: How often was the paint removed down to bare metal?
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« Reply #31 on: March 19, 2010, 03:52:50 PM » |
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Was this where the paint was removed down to bare metal? I need to look back at photos I collected on this refit.
It didnt look like it. It was a webcam image, so of the top of the bow, with alot of black, looked like a fire type mark. Matt |
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« Reply #32 on: March 19, 2010, 04:04:03 PM » |
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This is it  I remember at the time being rather concerned that the entire ship was on fire, and that was all that was visible from the webcam! |
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« Reply #33 on: March 19, 2010, 04:58:36 PM » |
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Yes! Thats the one Rob, i couldnt save it properly when i tried! I have to say, it does look like a fire burn to me too, it would be interesting to know what it is, if anyone knows!
Thanks for finding the image!
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« Reply #34 on: March 19, 2010, 05:31:11 PM » |
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Well, isn't that where some damaged plating was replaced? The marks could have been a result of them cutting out the damaged bits?
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« Reply #35 on: March 30, 2010, 05:49:20 PM » |
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« Reply #36 on: March 30, 2010, 08:57:31 PM » |
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Why is the white strip between the boot topping and black hull a yellow color? Was some sort of primer or solvent being applied. I don't recall the stripe ever being yellow. |
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« Reply #37 on: March 30, 2010, 09:32:28 PM » |
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Why is the white strip between the boot topping and black hull a yellow color? Was some sort of primer or solvent being applied. I don't recall the stripe ever being yellow.
It was gold, to go with the navy-blue hull... I think they were going for the 'Royal Yacht' look... |
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« Reply #38 on: March 30, 2010, 09:48:50 PM » |
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It was to match the go faster stripe which was red (top), gold (middle), blue (bottom). However people thought that the gold between the red boot topping and the blue hull looked dirty so it was quickly repainted white.
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« Reply #39 on: March 31, 2010, 12:42:43 AM » |
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Louis, great photos. Interesting, the first photo clearly shows the added vanes on the propeller shaft, just before the actual prop. These must have been added when the ship was converted to diesel electric and the props were changed to the variable pitch units. The vanes were not on the original hull. Or, they were added shortly after the conversion to address vibration issues. Perhaps Flagship can confirm this.
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« Reply #40 on: March 31, 2010, 09:54:39 AM » |
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Ken -
Might these be anything to do with Grim's vanes?
(Info regarding these are linked in the advanced search window!)
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Info regarding the Grimm vanes are from post No.25 onwards here!
Rosie, those aren't the vanes that Ken is referring to - although there might be a connection. The Grim Vane Wheels were long gone by the time Louis' photo was taken. Ken is talking about the 'ribs' that are the first thing on the prop shaft after it exits the ship. It would indeed be interesting to note what these were for - and my best guess is that they were to agitate or control the water for the Grim Vanes or propellors. |
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« Reply #42 on: April 01, 2010, 09:19:00 PM » |
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QE2 14th July 1987 in the King George IV dry dock Southampton Found these tucked away in one of my albums.. This was when the remaining vanes from the Grim wheels were cut off   safely inside the dock...   |
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From the moment you first glimpsed the Queen,
you just knew you were in for a very special time ahead.!
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« Reply #43 on: April 02, 2010, 08:37:11 AM » |
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Hey Myles!
QE2 23 years ago!
These photographs are superb,
Having never seen QE2 actually enter drydock
- to this pair of naive eyes, they are a 'wonder to behold' lol!
Very many thanks for posting them.
Rosie
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« Reply #44 on: April 03, 2010, 10:04:39 PM » |
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Photo taken a week before the crossing over to Hamburg for the Refit 1994  then a week later Anja sitting on a stack of wood planks and pointing roughly our position.We had a Force 8 blowing outside.  Louis |
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« Reply #45 on: April 13, 2010, 06:11:39 PM » |
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QE2 in Lloyd Werft dry dock, 24th April 2006 http://www.panoramio.com/photo/813525Thanks to Wil. |
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« Reply #47 on: April 26, 2010, 06:55:53 PM » |
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Thanks Rob.
Please- Does anyone know something about the refit that was booked for April - May 2008?
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« Reply #48 on: April 26, 2010, 07:36:57 PM » |
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Rosie
The original 2008 refit was booked from 18 April to 5 May but this was altered after the ship had been sold and became a wetdock in Southampton lasting from 18 to 27 April. The huge benefit of this occurred on 22 April when we had the magnificent sight of the three Queens in Southampton together.
Plus an additional cruise was squeezed in which helped with demand in her last season.
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« Reply #49 on: April 26, 2010, 09:37:34 PM » |
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Hello!
And Thank You for the answer!
Do you by any chance know the date of her final call to Saint Rochelle?
I may have dreamt it - or could it have been before 2008?
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« Reply #50 on: April 27, 2010, 09:13:47 AM » |
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Do you mean La Rochelle Rosie? Her calls there for 2008 were cancelled due to potential strike action and she called instead in Le Verdon. I was a bit annoyed at this as I booked one of the trips calling at La Rochelle as I wanted to go there - one of my memories from doing French at school was that it seemed everyone in France lived there so I wanted to see what the place was like! If you do mean La Rochelle I will try and get a final date for you.
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« Reply #51 on: April 27, 2010, 10:54:52 AM » |
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Oui! M. Flagship! Je suis désolé - je ne veux dire La Rochelle! Il est très très chic - les belles personnes de prendre leurs vacances là-bas! Parfait - tout comme QE2!  |
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« Reply #52 on: April 27, 2010, 11:03:51 AM » |
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J'aurais aimé plus d'attention à des cours de français à l'école!
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« Reply #53 on: April 27, 2010, 12:07:55 PM » |
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Michael, what was the original 2008 refit to achieve, interior wise, that wasn't achieved during Southampton (if anything)?
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« Reply #54 on: July 09, 2010, 10:06:23 PM » |
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Michael, what was the original 2008 refit to achieve, interior wise, that wasn't achieved during Southampton (if anything)?
You beat me to it Chris - same question to Michael! Also, I saw her every day during her wet dock & for the majority of time Upper deck, aft of the Yacht Club, was fully cloaked. I wanted to ask what was being done there? - I assume work on her teak deck/caulking which requires reasonable protection from the elements to complete. It just seemed odd to be doing that type of work so close to her retirement unless it was urgent, or in order to prevent or resolve other issues. There were also plenty of lifeboats away which I assume were being serviced or tested/certified - which would need to happen regardless of what was happening to QE2 in the near future. (couple of pics from the 3 queens meet reflecting this:) http://www.flickr.com/photos/31404389@N03/2987213297/in/set-72157608099006189/http://www.flickr.com/photos/31404389@N03/2948101546/in/set-72157608099006189/ |
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« Reply #55 on: July 10, 2010, 12:13:37 AM » |
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I know that the teak decks urgently needed to be refastened in this area. There were huge areas that has delaminated and were very "spongy." Either the fasteners had corroded and failed or the teak adhesive failed. Either way, the humps in the deck were a hazzard. I noticed this in several areas during the January 2008 Winter Crossing. If you were not careful, I could easily see someone losing their balance on the humps in the deck, especially if the ship was moving a bit. All was corrected by the time I set foot on her again in October.
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